Holiness is for everyone: “You can open yourself up to this grace which works within us and brings us to holiness… A woman goes shopping at the supermarket and finds her neighbour. First, they begin to talk, and then they start to gossip. And then this woman says: ‘No, no. I will not speak ill of someone.’ This is a step towards holiness, and it helps you become more holy. Then, at home, your son wants to speak to you about things he’s been imagining. [You think,] ‘Oh, I am so tired. I worked so much today.’ But [you] sit down and listen to your son; he needs it. And [you] listen to him with patience. This is one step towards holiness… And each step towards holiness will make us better people, free from selfishness and free from being closed in on ourselves, and actually open to our brothers and sisters and their needs.”